This past week I had the privilege of speaking with Chuck Crismier from Save America Ministries. He was interviewing me about my new book, Messy Beautiful Love. Not only did I enjoy this interview–I absolutely loved speaking with him on the topic of marriage. His convictions were refreshing, his joy was contagious.

I’d never listened to his program before, so I wasn’t sure what to expect, but I can tell you this. I will be listening to more of this podcasts from here on.

I wanted to share the link with you today incase you wanted to listen in to our conversation. And I think you can download the podcast to your iPhone if you want to listen on the run. Simply click the image below to access the podcast. Or go here.

I hope you enjoy it!

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